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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Zarathustra on Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:39 pm

Captivated- wrote:^That's false. Death can revive anything barring angels (that's until he gets this feat). He doesn't it do it because he stated it would disturb the natural balance of things.

Also as I stated, he's the biblical horsemen. Like the other horsemen on the show, he's bound to the attribute. It's not as simple as killing his physical body or attacking the concept, you'd have to make his attribute serve no purpose and because no one on the Getbackers team can kill all life in the Universe, Death wins by default. (He stated that he is the only thing that would last forever)

He's a stupid character but you have to respect what has been said about him. Supernatural isn't a show about speed feats or this that and the third, rather it's about the storytelling -> feats do make their ways into the show.

Again, let's go over Death's main powers. A scythe that can kill anything, teleportation, apportation, time manipulation (stopping it), insane control of weather (Created the planet wipe flood in Genesis 6), manipulating someones mind (when he put up the wall in Sam's mind) & supernatural perception (he will see the real person as they appear, no tricks). On top of that, Death was about to kill Cas (Imbued with 40 million souls) by touching his forehead -> Similar to how Cas kills people with his white light. He also stated that he would be the one who would reap god, albeit it's not proven. He can kill anyone on the Getbackers team.


No one on the Get Backers can destroy all life in the universe? False. The Archive already did exactly this, and Ginji was able to recreate everything back from scratch.

Okay you still haven't shown any reason why Death would get past Divine Providence. Nothing can work on Akabane, unless he can imagine it working on him. He has come back from the dead simply because he couldn't imagine himself dying.

Ban Mido can cut right through the concept of death. It doesn't matter if death is still a part of the universe or not. Ban Mido would destroy the entity of death and it wouldn't effect death actually being present in the universe.

None of those feats you listed are impressive compared to the Get Backers.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Zarathustra on Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:46 pm

Let's look at what the Get Backers have shall we?

Ban Mido:
Turning Circle:

The turning circle is a spell which allows the user's speed, and power to match his/her opponents. However, any attacks used upon the user will only affect the person using the attack. Maria Noches used this against Help, so it can be assumed that Ban Mido knows this technique as well, seeing that he is the heir to the Witch Queen.


Devil Arm: When Ban Mido achieves this form, he is pretty much a berserker like Raitei. His goal is to m
Ban Mido Unleashed
Devil Arm
ake any enemy before him disappear. He gains high speed regeneration in this form; but only damage he has previously taken will not heal (like if he was cut with a sword before he activates his form, he'll still have the damage). His speed and physical strength is multiplied by a great fold and it will only continue to rise. In this form, he is purely relying on the cosmos and Asceplius. This arm will literally cut through just about everything. (Time, space, dimensions, non-corporeal beings, empty space, and elements) Also, being in the sky doesn't help, because Ban will hit his opponent no matter what due to the effects of his arm, being that time and space are irrelevant to his arm.

Angel Arm:
Angel Arm
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Without relying on the use of his Asclepius curse, Ban Mido is able to use his own true power to help him battle. With this, he gains an Angel wing on his Snake Bite arm. The abilities he gains with this arm are similar to his cosmos. His powers will be greatly multiplied, but the one thing that will surpass everything else is his speed. His speed will rise, rise, and rise until his opponent can no longer keep up with him. In this form, it is is implied that he can't imagine his opponent being faster than him, which will allow him to jump great levels in speed. He can still cut through elements as well as non-corporeal beings. It is unknown if his actual physical strength gets a boost though. However, he was masterfully outclassing an opponent who existed outside of the timeline (all timelines). Clearly, time and space aren't an issue in this form either.

Akabane:

108 Surgical Scalpels: Akabane has 108 scalpels that are hidden within his body and they are made of his blood, but they are also infused with a ceramic, titanium alloy that doesn't conduct electricity, and then diamond. His scalpels can easily break through large pillars, diamond, large hills, and various targets instantly. His scalpels also have the ability to place people within suspended animation.
The Titanium Scalpels: Titanium Scalpels (Before he got them changed to Diamond!)
SkillsEdit
Deadly Accuracy: Akabane's accuracy with his scalpels are 100% dead on. Watch at how his randomly thrown scalpels can hit a massive amount of diamond shards in midair
Bloody Sword: This is his primary weapon which is made from his blood. He can cut through time and space with this sword and he can't imagine there being something or someone that he can't cut with this sword. (A sword with reality manipulation )
Bloody Lance: A diamond crafted lance meant for one shot kills.
Bloody Rain: He will launch all of the weapons into the air and direct them to rain down on a single target.
Bloody Cross: By laying his palm outwards which has a cross scar, a cross-like pattern will appear, and cause his opponent to be cleaved into 4 quarters as though they were sliced by a cross-shaped knife.This is his instant death move. It completely rids the body of all his opponents blood vessels while ripping them apart.
Bloody Sagittarius: By laying his palm outwards which has a cross scar, a massively larger cross-like pattern will appear, and cause his opponent to be cleaved into 4 quarters as though they were sliced by a large cross-shaped knife.This move is his instant death move. A more powerful version of the Cross.
Bloody Hurricane: He can hurl his scalpels to form a hurricane around his victim leaving no chance of escape before impaling them into the victim's body.
Bloody Stream: He throws his scalpels directly at the opponent with deadly accuracy.
Bloody Avatar: Akabane creates a lot of clones of himself, that are not as powerful as the original.
Bloody Shield: A shield consisting of sixteen of his scalpels seemingly held in place by a psychic barrier.They can block light and react fast enough to counter light. This shield can also block light from an omnidirectional point.
Darkness: Akabane can launch dark attacks upon his opponent. Just as Masaki uses light, Akabane commands the darkness. He can use the darkness to bypass all defenses and attack inner organs directly, and engulf an opponent with pure darkness robbing them of all of their senses (Similar to Tousen's bankai from Bleach). One attack he uses with this ability is "Bloody Shadow"
Bloody Diamond Clones: Akabane can make a massive amount of clones of himself to fight at his leisure. They can even cut through diamond and share his same demonic dreadful speed and abilities.
Divine Providence: Just like the Uncertainity Principle of Quantum Mechanics, Akabane has the ability to warp reality simply by not being able to imagine something. It was explained by Masaki Kurusu in volume 37 that Akabane's ability works in this fashion, and that if he doesn't acknowledge it, it doesn't exist. He has been shown to negate an enemy's powers by not being able to believe such a power could exist, such as when he used ordinary scalpels to cut in half Masaki's indestructible daggers of light by not being able to believe they couldn't be cut. Most notably he's been shown to negate his own death after coming back from the dead after being 'killed' in his first fight with Semimaru. When questioned he stated that he's never been able to imagine himself dying so it's unlikely he ever will[3]. When he was turned into a mere drop of blood by Masaki Kurusu, he simply revived, due to being able to imagine death. In volume 39, Sarai Kagenuma, the man who knows everything, also commented that if Akabane doesn't believe it, then it cannot materialize.
Transcendence: Just like other Brain Trust members, it was revealed that Akabane doesn't exist within the time frame. This is obviously a trait that is carried over no matter what dimension he is within.



Ginji:


Lightning Manipulation: Ginji is able to naturally generate lightning bolts from himself, as well as call lightning down to strike his opponent. It was mentioned that the lightning Ginji uses, is the same lightning that strikes the Infinity Fortress from the sky. However, he can also demand that same lightning to come to him, fueling him, even if he is within a higher dimension or underground somewhere.

Supply and Demand: Ginji is able to demand more than an infinite amount of energy in an instant from the Infinity Fortress. However, doing this is dangerous, because if he demands more than an infinite amount of energy, all time and space will collapse.

Electromagnetic Waves: Because of Ginji's natural attachment to electromagnetic waves are so powerful, that his will can alter the perception around him through shaping the thoughts within the minds around him. In Volume 10, it was explained that he left Infinity Fortress because he understood that no one around him truly had a will of their own because his will was superseding all others. The very electromagnetic waves that he sends out can alter one's very will.

High Frequency: Ginji has shown that he is able to utilize high frequency waves in order to take control of sentient creatures within the Kiriudo arc.

Because of Ginji's natural connection with nature and the electromagnetic field, he has shown to utilize empathy, Claircognizance, Clairvoyance, Clairaudience, ESP, and Precognition.

In Get Back the Lost Time, Ginji was able to utilize his Cross-Dimensional Awareness numerous of time, sensing events that were taking place outside of his dimension or time.

Ionization: In the Divine Design arc, it was explained that Ginji can charge the Earth with Negative Ions.

Flight: By charging the Earth with Negative Ions, and then magnetizing himself, he can use repulsion to float in the air. This was utilized in The Divine Design arc.

Raitei has shown the ability to grab and attack intangible objects as if they are material instead of immaterial, such as when he grabbed water like it was solid. This was done during the Kiriudo arc.

Soul Infliction: Ginji was shown to be able to attack the soul of another and not cause any physical harm.

Intuition: Ginji has the ability to protect his vital organs on his body through this method. Only the outside of his body will be damage, but no internal and series external damage will happen to him. Also, he is able to fight without the uses of his 5 senses, but with instinct alone. With this, he is able to grasp where his opponent is going to attack and how. He is able to see through his opponent's strategies and skill.

Reality Maniplation: It was explained in Volume 10 and elaborated in Volume 25 that Ginji's inner belief allows him to unconsciously overcome and change destiny. However, it should be noted that he is an anomaly within reality, not subjugated by the rules of the Archive.

Reality Anchorage: Ginji is unable to be changed by the shifting or the changing of reality. In the start of the Get Back the Lost Time arc, during volume 30, reality warped and was replaced several times, yet Ginji was unaffected by its results.

Microwave Radiation: Raitei can emit microwave-radiation and attack with superheated plasma or create clones from it. Opponents near him experience having their blood boiled due to the radiation he emits, which Raitei can also use to x-ray people.

X-Ray: As mentioned before, Raitei can use x-rays to scan the reality of his opponent.

Electromagnetic field: Raitei is naturally surrounded by this field that is produced by electrically charged objects.

Light: Raitei is able to attach himself to photons, and ride the light waves through the gap between time and space. He can also absorb photons for regeneration, and for amplifying his attacks. He was shown to be able to even absorb the energy that Masaki Kurusu was emitting in his King of Light form.

Absolute Destruction: At 100%, it was stated by MakubeX that Raitei's lightning will either break all matter down on a subatomic level into nothing; or perfectly annihilate. In Volume 32, it MakubeX was positive that not even their constituent molecules would be left after he attacked, but he didn't understand why he still existed after the attack, because nothing of them should have been left. (Ban was able to absorb the attack with his Demon Arm) At the end of Volume 38, Raitei was able to perfectly annihilate the Voodoo King while using his true power.

Regeneration: Raitei is capable of instant regeneration, via through absorbing light, sources of energy, or electromagnetic waves.

Energy Absorption: Raitei has been shown able to absorb the entirety of energy from an entire island. This was done in Volume 13. It was stated that not even the power reserves were available, as the energy was either being sucked up or simply wasn't there anymore. When Raitei appears, he can demand that all electricity and all light particles within the area be drawn to him, thus granting him limitless power.

High Temperature: His body heat, and the heat that he generates around him is so hot that he burns through rubber, steel, titanium and even forces that block out his electricity. He has able to instantly evaporate water, stone, and steel platings upon generating heat.

Space-time Manipulation: Raitei is able to manipulate time and space, and transcend it as well, stepping outside of it. He can reverse the flow of time on himself, which allows him to fight at the moment of his conception; in short, he obtains 100% of his power.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Whats_Out_The_Bag on Wed Apr 08, 2015 7:49 am

Damn this is a nice battle, well the name is. But the Supernatural team RAPES!!!!

Throwing in Death a multiverse like being fucked it up. lol
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Captivated- on Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:19 am

Zarathustra wrote:
Captivated- wrote:^That's false. Death can revive anything barring angels (that's until he gets this feat). He doesn't it do it because he stated it would disturb the natural balance of things.

Also as I stated, he's the biblical horsemen. Like the other horsemen on the show, he's bound to the attribute. It's not as simple as killing his physical body or attacking the concept, you'd have to make his attribute serve no purpose and because no one on the Getbackers team can kill all life in the Universe, Death wins by default. (He stated that he is the only thing that would last forever)

He's a stupid character but you have to respect what has been said about him. Supernatural isn't a show about speed feats or this that and the third, rather it's about the storytelling -> feats do make their ways into the show.

Again, let's go over Death's main powers. A scythe that can kill anything, teleportation, apportation, time manipulation (stopping it), insane control of weather (Created the planet wipe flood in Genesis 6), manipulating someones mind (when he put up the wall in Sam's mind) & supernatural perception (he will see the real person as they appear, no tricks). On top of that, Death was about to kill Cas (Imbued with 40 million souls) by touching his forehead -> Similar to how Cas kills people with his white light. He also stated that he would be the one who would reap god, albeit it's not proven. He can kill anyone on the Getbackers team.


No one on the Get Backers can destroy all life in the universe? False. The Archive already did exactly this, and Ginji was able to recreate everything back from scratch.

Okay you still haven't shown any reason why Death would get past Divine Providence. Nothing can work on Akabane, unless he can imagine it working on him. He has come back from the dead simply because he couldn't imagine himself dying.

Ban Mido can cut right through the concept of death. It doesn't matter if death is still a part of the universe or not. Ban Mido would destroy the entity of death and it wouldn't effect death actually being present in the universe.

None of those feats you listed are impressive compared to the Get Backers.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up.

Powerful abilities from other series work on characters. He doesn't have to imagine it working on him, Death from Supernatural is the literal harbinger of death. The scythe will work on him because in the series it's from it can kill anything. I'm going to make an assumption and say the rider of the apocalypse - DEATH, can kill anything. By your logic, his arm that can cut concepts can't work on Death because he is invulnerable.

Getting past divine providence? Death broke into the cage (made by God) to retrieve Sam's soul. The cage houses Lucifer (a stupid high tiered reality warper - Said that he taught Gabriel everything he knows) and Michael. Using your logic Death can literally bump into anyone on the Getbackers team to kill them, similar to when we first saw him.

Lastly, allow me to reiterate my statement. I'll bold it for you. The biblical horsemen of Death from Supernatural has reign over the CONCEPT of death as well as the ATTRIBUTE of death. As long as things die in the universe (or multiverse, if you insert him in there) he will exist. That's how he is described to us; source material >>>>>>> your words. Unless the Getbackers team can remove themselves from the space-time continuum they lose by default of Death being in the battle.

As a side note; again using your logic. No one on the Getbackers team can kill anyone on the Supernatural team. Gabe, Luci and Michael can ONLY be killed by archangel blades and Death has never been stated to have a fashion in which he could die. It doesn't matter if you post what their abilities are because the Supernatural team as a whole would muderstomp the Getbackers team, for the sake of this battle Death can kill them all himself.

Literal embodiments of biblical characters with the feats they have <<<<<<< Getbackers

If you still think that Death can't solo, I'll provide information of Gabriel. Death and Gabe would be enough to kill the Getbackers team.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Akronawol17 on Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:47 am

Replace Death, that might even things out.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Whats_Out_The_Bag on Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:47 am

That should if you replace him. People don't understand how much of a stomp it is if he's included.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by Zarathustra on Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:12 pm

Captivated- wrote:
Zarathustra wrote:
Captivated- wrote:^That's false. Death can revive anything barring angels (that's until he gets this feat). He doesn't it do it because he stated it would disturb the natural balance of things.

Also as I stated, he's the biblical horsemen. Like the other horsemen on the show, he's bound to the attribute. It's not as simple as killing his physical body or attacking the concept, you'd have to make his attribute serve no purpose and because no one on the Getbackers team can kill all life in the Universe, Death wins by default. (He stated that he is the only thing that would last forever)

He's a stupid character but you have to respect what has been said about him. Supernatural isn't a show about speed feats or this that and the third, rather it's about the storytelling -> feats do make their ways into the show.

Again, let's go over Death's main powers. A scythe that can kill anything, teleportation, apportation, time manipulation (stopping it), insane control of weather (Created the planet wipe flood in Genesis 6), manipulating someones mind (when he put up the wall in Sam's mind) & supernatural perception (he will see the real person as they appear, no tricks). On top of that, Death was about to kill Cas (Imbued with 40 million souls) by touching his forehead -> Similar to how Cas kills people with his white light. He also stated that he would be the one who would reap god, albeit it's not proven. He can kill anyone on the Getbackers team.


No one on the Get Backers can destroy all life in the universe? False. The Archive already did exactly this, and Ginji was able to recreate everything back from scratch.

Okay you still haven't shown any reason why Death would get past Divine Providence. Nothing can work on Akabane, unless he can imagine it working on him. He has come back from the dead simply because he couldn't imagine himself dying.

Ban Mido can cut right through the concept of death. It doesn't matter if death is still a part of the universe or not. Ban Mido would destroy the entity of death and it wouldn't effect death actually being present in the universe.

None of those feats you listed are impressive compared to the Get Backers.

Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up.

Powerful abilities from other series work on characters. He doesn't have to imagine it working on him, Death from Supernatural is the literal harbinger of death. The scythe will work on him because in the series it's from it can kill anything. I'm going to make an assumption and say the rider of the apocalypse - DEATH, can kill anything. By your logic, his arm that can cut concepts can't work on Death because he is invulnerable.

Getting past divine providence? Death broke into the cage (made by God) to retrieve Sam's soul. The cage houses Lucifer (a stupid high tiered reality warper - Said that he taught Gabriel everything he knows) and Michael. Using your logic Death can literally bump into anyone on the Getbackers team to kill them, similar to when we first saw him.

Lastly, allow me to reiterate my statement. I'll bold it for you. The biblical horsemen of Death from Supernatural has reign over the CONCEPT of death as well as the ATTRIBUTE of death. As long as things die in the universe (or multiverse, if you insert him in there) he will exist. That's how he is described to us; source material >>>>>>> your words. Unless the Getbackers team can remove themselves from the space-time continuum they lose by default of Death being in the battle.

As a side note; again using your logic. No one on the Getbackers team can kill anyone on the Supernatural team. Gabe, Luci and Michael can ONLY be killed by archangel blades and Death has never been stated to have a fashion in which he could die. It doesn't matter if you post what their abilities are because the Supernatural team as a whole would muderstomp the Getbackers team, for the sake of this battle Death can kill them all himself.

Literal embodiments of biblical characters with the feats they have <<<<<<< Getbackers

If you still think that Death can't solo, I'll provide information of Gabriel. Death and Gabe would be enough to kill the Getbackers team.


Yes Akabane already exists outside of space time and Ban and Ginji have gone outside of space-time as well.

How does breaking into a cage created by God have anything to do with anything? I see no correlation between that and DP. Death has never killed a being that could bring himself back to life. It doesnt matter what Death embodies, Akabane cant imagine himself dying, so he cant die.

Ban Mido has killed type 4 immortals and concepts with Devil Arm before. I fail to see why you think Death or the archangels would be any different.

Akabane also has logic manipulation. He can manipulate logic to the point where Death is extremely weak and killable, just like he did to the Beltline monster.

What's Gabriel going to do? Everyone on team 1 is immune to reality warping.
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Re: GetBackers team vs Supernatural team

Post by tiraomoz on Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:37 am

People keep forgetting that it is not simple to do the whole multiversal level stuff with a series or movie just as it easy in a manga comic anime or Light novel

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