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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:40 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
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Naruto Uzumaki wrote:Marvel and DC are above Umineko and Dark Tower........

Plus lovecraft if you allow statement feats then Lovecraft.

False.


Lovecraft > Dark Tower > Umineko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marvel/DC.

Marvel is at best 16 dimensional. Lovecraft and Dark Tower are Hilbert Space level and Umineko is just a notch below that.
Not really also different fictions dont have the same logic also Hilbert space levels dont mean anything in the actual work of fiction.
Marvel=DC>>>>>>>>>>>Lovecraft >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dark Tower>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Umineko

Yes it does. All of the verses listed have better feats than Marvel and DC together.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:43 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:Suggsverse>>>>>>>>Demonbane>=Lovecraft Mythos>=KKK>Dark Tower>Umineko>SMT>Tenchi Muyo>=To Aru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marvel/DC
Marvel=DC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LoveCraft>>>>>>>>>Suggsverse+Demonbane+KKK>Dark Tower+Umineko+SMT+Tenchi Muyo

I fixed it.


We already debated. Marvel and DC are weaker than all of those verses listed. Marvel and DC don't even have answers for the high level conceptual haxes present in Umineko and KKK.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 6:58 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:Suggsverse>>>>>>>>Demonbane>=Lovecraft Mythos>=KKK>Dark Tower>Umineko>SMT>Tenchi Muyo>=To Aru>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Marvel/DC
Marvel=DC>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LoveCraft>>>>>>>>>Suggsverse+Demonbane+KKK>Dark Tower+Umineko+SMT+Tenchi Muyo

I fixed it.


We already debated. Marvel and DC are weaker than all of those verses listed. Marvel and DC don't even have answers for the high level conceptual haxes present in Umineko and KKK.
Lol a bunch of anime people not true comic fans which I'm both and Marvel+DC have beings that would curbstomp Anime
DC:
The Presence aka The Great Evil Beast/The Source- Omnipotent Being
Michael Demiurgos/Lucifer Morningstar- Beings of which can kill conceptual beings and break the logic with little effort.
Thought Robot/Mandrakk are mere plot shields/device's
5th Dimensional Imps- A mere tantrum can cause multiverse destruction.
Spectre race- all nigh-omnipotent with holy limits until unbound.
SA Superman- Hax to the point of lol
4th Wall- Mr.Mxy/Grant Morrison/The Presence

Marvel:
TOAA- the omnipotent being
Pre-Retcon Beyonder- Omnipotent being
The Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent race capable of doing as they will on a whim.
Pre-Retcon Moleculeman- Able to be above all form of existence at the time.
The Living Tribunal- Megaverse entity that can create Multiverse entities and makes a Megaverse.
HOTU- Piece of TOAA power
Mad Jim Jasper- Omniversal Reality Warping
Protege- Infinite Omnipotence aka Hax to the 5th Degree
4th Wall- Deadpool/She-Hulk/TOAA
Cosmic Cubes- Universe hax
Squirrel Girl- Hax with no logic


-Omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matter are feats. Even Othinus was stated to be omnipotent. She solos Marvel and DC based on feats alone.
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards


-Omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matter are feats. Even Othinus was stated to be omnipotent. She solos Marvel and DC based on feats alone.
-Omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matter are feats. Even Othinus was stated to be omnipotent. She solos Marvel and DC based on feats alone.
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
-Hardly impressive by the listed verses' standards
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by ChaosKnight75 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:01 pm

Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:07 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.

Marvel franchises are finite, while SMT, To Aru, Tenchi Muyo, Lovecraft, Dark Tower, Demonbane, KKK, and Umineko are infinite.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by ChaosKnight75 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:09 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.
And witches from Umineko can apparently travel to the verses of any franchise they want. You can use your reliance on 4th Wall breaking all you like. Isn't changing the cold hard fact that LT just got bent over to the Beyonders with a Multiverse he couldn't protect for jack.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:13 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.

Marvel franchises are finite, while SMT, To Aru, Tenchi Muyo, Lovecraft, Dark Tower, Demonbane, KKK, and Umineko are infinite.
Again incorrect like I stated.....have you not been reading? Marvel/DC is Infinite how? If you read Comics you would know multiple times they showed MULTIVERSE destruction on different occasions even within their writings lol Transformers have Unicron owned by Marvel who was capable of eating a entire INFINITE Multiverse and starting a new lol so again they are more infinite than any of the verses you listed.
Megaverse is just the GROUP of Infinite MULTIVERSES.

If there are things bigger than the multiverse, then the multiverse wasn't infinite to begin with. Infinity is the largest you can get. If anything is larger than that said something, then it wouldn't be infinite to begin with. You can't be bigger than infinity.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:18 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.

Marvel franchises are finite, while SMT, To Aru, Tenchi Muyo, Lovecraft, Dark Tower, Demonbane, KKK, and Umineko are infinite.
Again incorrect like I stated.....have you not been reading? Marvel/DC is Infinite how? If you read Comics you would know multiple times they showed MULTIVERSE destruction on different occasions even within their writings lol Transformers have Unicron owned by Marvel who was capable of eating a entire INFINITE Multiverse and starting a new lol so again they are more infinite than any of the verses you listed.
Megaverse is just the GROUP of Infinite MULTIVERSES.

If there are things bigger than the multiverse, then the multiverse wasn't infinite to begin with. Infinity is the largest you can get. If anything is larger than that said something, then it wouldn't be infinite to begin with. You can't be bigger than infinity.
You cant be bigger than infinity?.....Omnipotence is above all numbers of infinity........marvel even explained and somewhat DC HAVE explained they have Different levels of infinity........

Comic book writers don't understand the concept of infinity. That sounds like a personal problem to me. Once you hit infinite universes, you can't get bigger than that unless you get into higher spatial dimensions. Marvel is at best 16 dimensional. That's child's play compared to the verses listed.
Also the megaverse and multiverse in Marvel are finite, since the omniverse is bigger than them. The omniverse might be infinite, which would still be 16-D which is lower than the verses listed.


Also omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matters is feats. The verses I listed have better feats than all of Marvel and DC combined.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by ChaosKnight75 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:22 pm

Goes to show how much you know. Bernkastel talked about going to the Ghost in the Shell verse as well as some other verse. In JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, you got Bohemian Rhapsody that can bring out any fictional character. With what your saying, I can just say Bohemian Rhapsody brings out Beyonder, Living Tribunal, and TOAA. I can say Gabriel from Supernatural can do the same while making them and all of Marvel his bitch with the way your going with this. He already brought out the Hulk.


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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:22 pm

ChaosKnight75 wrote:Goes to show how much you know. Bernkastel talked about going to the Ghost in the Shell verse as well as some other verse. In JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, you got Bohemian Rhapsody that can bring out any fictional character. With what your saying, I can just say Bohemian Rhapsody brings out Beyonder, Living Tribunal, and TOAA. I can say Gabriel from Supernatural can do the same while making them his bitch with the way this is going.

Bohemian Rhapsody already soloed all of fiction.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:23 pm

ChaosKnight75 wrote:Goes to show how much you know. Bernkastel talked about going to the Ghost in the Shell verse as well as some other verse. In JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, you got Bohemian Rhapsody that can bring out any fictional character. With what your saying, I can just say Bohemian Rhapsody brings out Beyonder, Living Tribunal, and TOAA. I can say Gabriel from Supernatural can do the same while making them his bitch with the way this is going. He already brought out the Hulk.

Also do you have anymore verses to add to the list?
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:27 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.

Marvel franchises are finite, while SMT, To Aru, Tenchi Muyo, Lovecraft, Dark Tower, Demonbane, KKK, and Umineko are infinite.
Again incorrect like I stated.....have you not been reading? Marvel/DC is Infinite how? If you read Comics you would know multiple times they showed MULTIVERSE destruction on different occasions even within their writings lol Transformers have Unicron owned by Marvel who was capable of eating a entire INFINITE Multiverse and starting a new lol so again they are more infinite than any of the verses you listed.
Megaverse is just the GROUP of Infinite MULTIVERSES.

If there are things bigger than the multiverse, then the multiverse wasn't infinite to begin with. Infinity is the largest you can get. If anything is larger than that said something, then it wouldn't be infinite to begin with. You can't be bigger than infinity.
You cant be bigger than infinity?.....Omnipotence is above all numbers of infinity........marvel even explained and somewhat DC HAVE explained they have Different levels of infinity........

Comic book writers don't understand the concept of infinity. That sounds like a personal problem to me. Once you hit infinite universes, you can't get bigger than that unless you get into higher spatial dimensions. Marvel is at best 16 dimensional. That's child's play compared to the verses listed.
Also the megaverse and multiverse in Marvel are finite, since the omniverse is bigger than them. The   might be infinite, which would still be 16-D which is lower than the verses listed.


Also omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matters is feats. The verses I listed have better feats than all of Marvel and DC combined.
So no one is Multiverse+ by your logic?
Marvel at best is 16 dimensional?......doesn't matter 5th dimensional imps are above tenchi muyo.......also you BELIEVE its finite which its not like I stated before because 16th Dimensional doesn't mean ANYTHING marvel can explain 16th Dimension is Beyond Megaverses and above anything why? Because it's their fiction you dont like the idea of LT stomping that's very biased ima Anime fan and I know he can stomp.

No you can be multiverse+. Othinus could casually destroy and recreate an infinite amount of universes, dimensions, and phases a billion times over in the blink of an eye. That would be multiverse+. Anyone above her would be multiverse++. Nope. 5-D imps get wrecked by Tenchi Muyo.
Marvel's verse is finite, while all the verses I listed are infinite.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by ChaosKnight75 on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:28 pm

5th Dimensional above characters in Tenchi Muyo that are 22 Dimensional to transcending all dimensions and reality as functionally Omnipotent beings and one confirmed Omnipotent according to the author. Hey you love sticking to whack statements from the Marvel writers. Word of God states Tenchi is Omnipotent and Omniscient as Kami Tenchi. Yup, there goes your credibility
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:29 pm

ChaosKnight75 wrote:5th Dimensional above characters in Tenchi Muyo that are 22 Dimensional to transcending all dimensions and reality anms functionally Omnipotent beings and one confirmed Omnipotent according to the author. Hey you love sticking to whack statements from the Marvel writers. Word of God states Tenchi is Omnipotent and Omniscient as Kami Tenchi. Yup, there goes your credibility

Tenchi does solo Marvel/DC, but omnipotence shouldn't be used as a shield in VS debates. Most battle forums are shying away from the term omnipotence for this exact reason.
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Re: Lovecraft Mythos vs Dark Tower verse

Post by dhalsim on Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:32 pm

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
dhalsim wrote:
Naruto Uzumaki wrote:
ChaosKnight75 wrote:Clearly not enough of a fan of either to take seriously. LT doesn't have shit over any verse outside Marvel regardless of what writers say. They have no actual say over any other franchise and if your gonna go that route than Umineko owns all fiction as their play things when that's obviously bull. Don't bother, LT just failed epically in handling just the Marvel Multiverse
Umineko only runs the series they have lol
Marvel has MULTIPLE different franchises.
So.......again like I stated is correct as marvel gave a full glossary of their fictional community so have DC.

Marvel franchises are finite, while SMT, To Aru, Tenchi Muyo, Lovecraft, Dark Tower, Demonbane, KKK, and Umineko are infinite.
Again incorrect like I stated.....have you not been reading? Marvel/DC is Infinite how? If you read Comics you would know multiple times they showed MULTIVERSE destruction on different occasions even within their writings lol Transformers have Unicron owned by Marvel who was capable of eating a entire INFINITE Multiverse and starting a new lol so again they are more infinite than any of the verses you listed.
Megaverse is just the GROUP of Infinite MULTIVERSES.

If there are things bigger than the multiverse, then the multiverse wasn't infinite to begin with. Infinity is the largest you can get. If anything is larger than that said something, then it wouldn't be infinite to begin with. You can't be bigger than infinity.
You cant be bigger than infinity?.....Omnipotence is above all numbers of infinity........marvel even explained and somewhat DC HAVE explained they have Different levels of infinity........

Comic book writers don't understand the concept of infinity. That sounds like a personal problem to me. Once you hit infinite universes, you can't get bigger than that unless you get into higher spatial dimensions. Marvel is at best 16 dimensional. That's child's play compared to the verses listed.
Also the megaverse and multiverse in Marvel are finite, since the omniverse is bigger than them. The   might be infinite, which would still be 16-D which is lower than the verses listed.


Also omnipotence can't be used as a shield in VS debates. All that matters is feats. The verses I listed have better feats than all of Marvel and DC combined.
So no one is Multiverse+ by your logic?
Marvel at best is 16 dimensional?......doesn't matter 5th dimensional imps are above tenchi muyo.......also you BELIEVE its finite which its not like I stated before because 16th Dimensional doesn't mean ANYTHING marvel can explain 16th Dimension is Beyond Megaverses and above anything why? Because it's their fiction you dont like the idea of LT stomping that's very biased ima Anime fan and I know he can stomp.

No you can be multiverse+. Othinus could casually destroy and recreate an infinite amount of universes, dimensions, and phases a billion times over in the blink of an eye. That would be multiverse+. Anyone above her would be multiverse++. Nope. 5-D imps get wrecked by Tenchi Muyo.
Marvel's verse is finite, while all the verses I listed are infinite.
Alot of beings are above Othinus lol......she is what Multiverse? Cute Marvel/DC have beings above that like i stated.

Show a scan of a Marvel/DC character that destroys and recreates an infinite amount of universes, dimensions, and phases a billion times over in the blink of an eye. I'll wait.

Marvel and DC don't even have an infinite amount of universes so this isn't even possible.
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